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Post by Guida on Feb 17, 2009 16:09:58 GMT -5
Okay boys here's one. Two cars in the driveway are well involved. Houses on either side are approximately 10 feet away and are starting to auto-expose. You are the first due engine. Where do you put the first line? I will tell you that I changed my idea after I learned how it fought.
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Post by Billy Lewis on Feb 19, 2009 23:28:26 GMT -5
Well so far 16 views and zero replies. Step up fellows this is great chance to learn something. Although it is not a question asked in this scenario, I would first off balance this to a house fire if it hasn't been done yet. Some size up questions I would be asking myself prior to line placement decision would be.
1. which house if any is in great involment
2. Is either house occuiped
3. Garage doors? Present? Open?
4. strong wind conditions?
If any one of the houses fit into any of the above conditions I would place my line...1.75 tank line...on that side. My line placement would be at the front of the car at a angle...so 45 to the corner of the car between the car and house.
If all conditions are the same or equal I would place my line at the same place but to the side of the cars out of the smoke to watch progress.
This is a total shot in the dark. I have never been in this situation. Looking forward to what everyone has to say.
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Post by barker on Feb 20, 2009 11:47:41 GMT -5
I agree with Billy..get help coming and check for any life-safety issues. Next, get a line on the cars. The cars are a huge fire-load, especially with the fuels (gasoline), taking the heat out of them will help with the exposure problems. Of course we must overhaul and check for extension in the auto exposed houses.
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Post by Billy Lewis on Feb 28, 2009 12:58:50 GMT -5
We on target Guida?
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Post by guida on Mar 4, 2009 15:59:13 GMT -5
Let me tell you that what I thought I would do is get a line on the cars and try to knock down what is the main body of fire. My thought was that attacking the houses while the cars were still blazing was not going to accomplish much. Hopefully as you are getting a handle on the main fire, the second and third due engines can go in and get the houses.
How this fire was actually fought was that the captain and his rookie firefighter took one line and went into one house and the senior firefighter went into the other house. They knocked down both houses and then put water on the cars thru the windows of the houses. Now I know that having one engine co. pull multiple lines is a no-no. I also know that sending one ff in by themselves is frowned upon. But this particular tactic saved both houses. The reason I posted this was to show that sometimes you have to think outside of conventional wisdom and maybe do things that you normally would not do. Food for thought.
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